PLEASE HELP: POODLE BREATHING PROBLEM





My toy poodle just turned 2 years old.  He is full of life and all the vets that he has seen seem to think he is absolutely healthy.  When he was about 8 months old, he crawled under a bed and came out completely covered in dust and webs and what not.  He immidiatly started making this weird loud labored sniffling noise (his mouth was closed so it was coming from his nose) which sounds very much like a child that is sobbing uncontrollably and trying to breath at the same time (you know that fast labored sniffling thing that kids do).  It freaked me out and as I was about to jump in the car to go to the emergency animal hospital, he stopped making the noise (which had lasted for about 3-5 minutes) and all was fine.  Since then, he occasionally makes that noise, maybe once or twice a month, but it seems to take longer than the 3-5 mintues the first time I noticed it.  My house is pretty clean, but I suspect allergies could be the source of the problem.  However, last night was really bad.  He started his sniffly noise thing around 7:30 and it continued for about an hour and was accompanied by dry heaving until I was afraid something was stuck in his throat.  I held him upside down for about 15 seconds and gently padded him on the back and he produced a gigantic amount of vomit which was SUPER foamy and oily and sticky in consistency.  It kind of looked like a cracked egg.  He was fine for about 2 mintues and then started sniffling and produced even more of that egg-white foamy oily vomit.  So the sniffling continued for about 5 minutes more and I decided to see if he could bark so I showed him the signal to bark and as he attempted to release the first bark he made this deep burpy suffocation noise and bent down on the ground as if he was bracing himself.  I honestly thought that I had killed my dog, but about 5 seconds later he regained his breathing and continued his sniffly noise through the rest of the night.  I called the emergency animal hospital and they didn't seem to concerned about the issue and told me to make an appt with my vet the next day.  The problem is that I have taken him to the vet regarding the sniffling problem several times and each time the docs say he is healthy.  I cant induce the sniffly noise he makes at the vet, and I cant get to the vet the moment he starts making it so I think I will just videotape him next time and take that to the vet.  Anyway, back to yesterday's incident.  So the sniffling lasted for several hours and became less and less prominent until he went to sleep.  He slept fine all through the night and then this morning made the sniffly noise 2 or 3 times until I had to go to work and couldn't be with him anymore.  During the incident I used my stethoscope to make sure his heart rate was fine (it was normal and regular) and I tried to listen to the lungs to hear if they had liquid in them and everything seemed fine except for the loud noise I heard everytime he made his sniffling noise.  So basically my questions are what is going on with my dog and has anyone ever heard/experienced this before with their dog?  Also, aside from rushing to the emergency room, what should I do that could potentially help him?

Regarding the poodle breathing problem:

  I have an older toy poodle that has the same thing breathing problem as you described.   I suspected asthma and asked  a vet.  I was given the same "reverse sneeze" answer.   However, the vet did not witness the symptons first hand.   I find it hard to believe a sneeze would continue for a minute to several minutes.   I try to open the dogs mouth to let him get more air during these spells and it seems to help.  My dog does not have the vomitting at the same time as you mentioned, although I do think he spits up more often since he has gotten older.   He has some reflux issues that contribute.    My poodle seems to have more frequent  spells in the spring and the fall leading me to think it is allergy related.   I give my dog one half of a benedryl tablet (covered with peanut butter).     I would be interested in any further information you have found.

 hawker723@yahoo.com

Regarding this issue, yes you do think your dog is dying.  I have a cousin who is a vet and I also have a dog with this issue.  The next time this happens hold you hand over his nose to stop the breathing through the nose.  This will cause him to breath through his mouth and this will stop it.  Also you may have to do this 2 or 3 times to completely stop it  (yes it will seem like it is not working but it will work if it is truly reverse sneezing)

As for the vomiting, this is caused from basic dry heaving causing an air bubble effect mixed with stomach acid from the gagging/snorting/ gasping for air (or rather reverse sneezing).   

Good luck!  Doc Sans Sister

 

 

 

I also have a toy poodle, Champ and he was doing the scary breathing patterns you describe.  It occurs especially when he is very excited.  My vet said it is a "reverse sneeze" and to cup his nose and mouth to make it stop by blocking the ingestion of too much air being taken in.  IT WORKS!!!!

Butters, not knowing what is going on with our pets can be distressing to say the least.  It is hard to say for sure what is going on with your dog with out seeing the episode first hand.  Allergies may or may not being playing a role in what is going on with your dog and with out knowing what the allergen is or if there is one,  it's purely guess work.

A possibility of what you are describing could be something called a reverse sneeze.  During a normal sneeze the air is pushed out the nose.  A reverse is the rapid intake of air causing the dog to sound like it is snorting or gagging.  We do not have an article currently on this topic but if you search for 'reverse sneeze' you will find informaiton and even a You Tube video. 

If you feel that you want to take things a step farther with diagnosing, you could ask for more diagnostic testing or a referral to a hospital or specialist who could hopefully arrive at a diagnosis.  I hope this helps and please keep us posted on what you find out and how your dog is doing.

Marcie Whidden
PetDoc.com


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